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Discussion in 'Tools and tips' started by Scott, Jul 30, 2005.

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  1. minor crimes

    minor crimes Elite Member

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    they tried to charge me and my mate with possesssion and intent to use for carrying like 60cans in a car. they pulled us over in teh car and questioned us for about an hour. and then they gave me a caution. can only have 3 cautions till ur 18. and yeh ive had 2 for graff and 1 for assault and like they took my mate to court. and then the first time we had to go to court out matter didnt even get looked at and the second time the other cop didnt even show up. so we got off
     
  2. ohgawdxcarcrash

    ohgawdxcarcrash Elite Member

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    not everyone is as lucky as you. if you're gonna go bombing with a car, make sure its shitty. so you can say the paint is for the car, and you're just driving your friend home from working night shift.
     
  3. milfhunter

    milfhunter Elite Member

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    I Ogt Ticket For Jay Walking Which Sucks Cause Idint Knwo U Could Get Tickets For That Smae Day I Got Arrested For Speeding,suspision Of Vandalism..haha
     
  4. Enmity

    Enmity Elite Member

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    i learned from others who got caught up in some major drug charges.. dont say a word .. nothing cause if you do the more likely of the chance for the cop or whoever to make you say the wrong thing and give them evidence (they are trained to ask questions to make you fuck up). if they threat you doesnt matter..whatever they say.. dont say anything... sit there and let them do whatever .. youll talk when your attorney is present.thats it when you get arrested no matter what it is .. the police are trying to "paint a picture on a canvas" for the judge to prove that you committed the crime and you are guilty.. when you dont say anything they have no "paint" you have a clean canvas.. which is harder for them (because you didnt say anything).. then you have your attorney (his/her job to paint a canvas representing your innocence to the judge) wich is much easier if your didnt start blabbering your mouth to an officer trying to explain what happend what you were doing .. incriminating yourself is pretty common


    but then again .. best thing is .. to not get caught
     
  5. Hobbes

    Hobbes Senior Member

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    First off, to anyone who has the idea their invincible because "they can't do shit if they didn't see you" well you better think twice...and your fucking KIDDING yourself if you don't think 100% pure innocent people ARE in jail...you aren't fucking innnocent so just be glad if you can get away with most of it, and get off easy in the end. My fucking grandad did 2 years in prison for shit that got overturned.

    COPS CAN AND WILL ARREST YOU FOR ANY REASON AND DO NOT HAVE TO TELL YOU WHY YOU ARE BEING ARRESTED you will most likely not happen for no reason, but say your walking down the street with your hood up and paint in hand...you think a cop ISN'T going to arrest you? Maybe a dumb rookie, but most prick cops would jump RIGHT the fuck on you.

    For me...2 weeks before I my 18th fuckin' birthday I got caught...I talked a little too much but was careful to not ADMIT I did it or really say anything that was very incriminating, I just told them there was no legal walls around here to do it, theres no substitute for painting, and I wanna be a fuckin' graphics designer so its relevant to my career. Of course the fucking assumed I did ALL of the shit...acting like they knew all kindsa shit...

    anyway, I won't discuss the whole story but I ended up getting charged with
    resisting arrest (undercovers, badges 'prominintely on there BELTS UNDER their fucking hoodies! I asked "who are you, ARE YOU THE POLICE?!" since I thought I was just getting jumped by some store owners...till the fat man with a gun came out the woods then I thought 'shit this is the cops?' but they still didn't tell me till later on. Oh and the guy who chased me never said shit, just saw me with paint 'n hoodie 'n fuckin' ran at me.)
    loitering and prowling

    then 2 weeks later, the day before my birthday, they come back with a buncha vandalism charges 'n shit.

    In the end, I had to do a plea bargain. Two 3rd degree FELONIES - Criminal Mischief (vandalism) 1 misdeamenor, vandalism, and then resisiting arrest (dropped the loitering charge...wtf was I arrested for?)

    I had to do a plea bargain, pleaded 'no contest' so i don't actually have a conviction, and can honestly answer "No I have never been convicted of a felony"

    some questions:
    The judge said some shit about 5 years or something...I don't remember and didn't fully understand but someone a page or two back said you can't roll into canada for 5 years after felonies? Well i didn't get CONVICTED, but I wanna move to amsterdamn in TWO years...think this will fuck me over? I was a minor, and it was 'judicated' so its not on my public records 'n shit, but it takes like, fucking EIGHTEEN MONTHS to fucking clear your record...

    Also, i wanna get my name changed once I get off probation, not for fraudulent reasons necessarily, but I don't want them to look that shit up and be like "oh damn you fuckin' vandal can't decide what your own goddamn name is!" actually, all they would see is fucking "felony, felony" anyone know if this even matters? Or is name changing not that in-depth of a process?

    Also...they got my FUCKING prints and FUCKING DNA! FUCKING DNA! taken...if I did get my name changed you think that would fuck them over with that shit? Like...first, if my record gets cleared does that shit disappear? I mean, my it is a RECORD of my prints 'n shit.

    Anyone?
     
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  6. Slushi

    Slushi Banned

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    Everyone shut up about your "rights".

    No cop gives a shit.
     
  7. Bazer

    Bazer Moderator

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    noob cops do.
     
  8. Hobbes

    Hobbes Senior Member

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    Listen to this man.

    You know what the cops words verbatim were after I told him "Officer you did not identify yourself, your supposed to Identify yourself. I felt a lot of that was unnecessary"

    "SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DON'T FUCKING KNOW ANYTHING"

    This is...after I have been chased, tackled to the ground AFTER I gave up, saw the gun 'n threw my hands up, ditched paint on the ground and before I got to my knees, I get tackled...get chokelocked (they love that shit, ever heard 'i can't breathe' in a brutality vid?) and was sitting on the ground, mouth bleeding because my tooth had broke off and had tooth chunks in my lip, in addition to a nasty lashing under my chin.

    So yeah...you think it worked out okay for me even though they didn't see me paint anything? not really because in the end, when you did it, you did it (i didn't, at least not all of it) and THE ONLY THING that can bring you down is them PHYSICALLY ARRESTING YOU, most likely you aren't going to cover up all your tracks...some people have it easy, but some cops will do anything to catch you.

    Oh, 'n THOUSANDS of complaints and shit are sent but nothings really ever done, mad police brutality especially nowadays.

    oh 'n for the record, they put "resisisting arrest without violence" so why did my shit get fucked up so bad? You know, a black eye would have been more than sufficient...shit throw in a broken nose 'n I'd be straight.

    Seriously, be careful...I'm mad bummed because a tooth is something permanent and paint is not...ya' know? Oh...they never painted over the shit either, it turns out its really not about the paint because I even offered to clean all the shit up.

    Man this shit is STILL buggin' me....
     
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  9. illadelph

    illadelph Elite Member

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    Do Anything Illegal By Yourself At All Times !!! It Covers Your Ass,as Far As Anyone Telling On You,plus If Some Asshole Gets Jammed Up For Something That You Know He Did...if You Were By Yourself And Not With Him You Can't Be Suspect.if A Cop Stops Me,i Always Treat Them With Respect.even If They Act Like Cocksuckers And Assholes,don't Get Cocky !!!9 Out Of 10 Times They Want You To Answer Back All Loud And Shit So They Have A Reason To Fuck With You.trust Me....out Of Everybody I Grew Up With And Know,there's Only About Me+ 2 Or 3 Dudes Left....mostly Cause They Did Shit They Weren't Supposed To Be Doing***but-they Did It With Somebody Who Ratted Their Ass Out With The Quickness***i Do All My Shit By Myself...and Another Thing-don't Brag About Shit Either !!! As Long As You Know The Truth Then That's All That Fuckin Matters !!! For All You Younger Cats That Might Think Actin All Crazy Is Cool And Shit Like That....you Need To Slow Your Fuckin Role.....fall Back And Chill And Keep Your Fuckin Mouth Shut About Any Shit You Did,saw,were A Part Of,heard,said Or Anything Else.....
     
  10. Hobbes

    Hobbes Senior Member

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    I know man! I'm so tryin' to be like that more I've always kinda been like that I mean I bombed solo mainly, but starting off I got someone else into it but they quickly proved to be mad sketch to do shit with...like shit seriously. 'n I pretty much stopped bombin' with 'em but ya' know what could I do? I guess the smart thing woulda been to ditch 'em a lot sooner 'n just lie and say "oh I don't even graff anymore its too hard" or something. dumb dumb dumb....

    I unno I was in a REALLY hard situation to graff, I always wondered why there was no writers around here...just mad hard to do shit here anyhow. Cops are mad dicks here too though, like I always am polite 'n shit 'n I'm white (their racist not me) but they always try to be a fuckin' dick no matter what 'n its hard, especially when your young they know teenagers are up to shit most the time. Lucky I'mma get out 'n bomb mad shit in the future 'n I'm hella more prepared I think I have the potential to be smart 'n shit so I will be able to get mad shit up in the future.
     
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  11. GraffitiEast2008

    GraffitiEast2008 Senior Member

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    i got charged with criminail mishceif to. and i had 25 hours community service and 300$ fine thank god they didnt find my otha bombs but since im 14 my parents paid it. and i had probation for 3 months but i got on house arest so they moved it up to 5 months
     
  12. IlikePie

    IlikePie Elite Member

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    Do some real crimes kid...
     
  13. La Coka Nostra

    La Coka Nostra Elite Member

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    his name is oil, backwards l.
    straight gutta.
     
  14. explosivo_420

    explosivo_420 Elite Member

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    juvi:

    first time:
    possession of drug paraphillia (pipe)
    possession of drug paraphillia (scale)
    resisting arrest without violence

    second time (while on probation):
    grand theft auto (odd, never brought to court for it)

    third (within days of getting congratulatory notice of completion of first probation):
    possession of cannibus
    resisting arrest without violence.
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    adult:

    loitering
    agg. battery on law enforcement officer
    resisting arrest with violence.

    still dealin with it....
     
  15. Look@it2x

    Look@it2x Senior Member

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    420 u need to chill a little bit sheesh none of that stuff was for graff either
     
  16. Shiva.

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    i only got a warning because i stole the keys from a teacher and using that keys i stole about all the art supplies the school had.
    i had fun with it for almost 2 years, but at the end i got caught and they called the cops.
    i didn't get more than a warning because i gave the keys back and the art stuff i still had left.
     
  17. ateb

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    i got snitched out by one of my supposed 'best' friends, we got pulled over for tinted windows, with paint in the car, and some tips. they seperated us, one other friend and i denied it all, they said an investigator was on the way, cared one of my friends, and he gave a statement. everything matched up enough for them to convict me.
    3 felonies
    5 misdemeanors of criminal mischeif
    and 5 misdemeanors of 'making graffitti'

    felonies got dropped to misdemeanors
    i have 3 years probation, restitution out the ass, and mad lawyer fees
    the whole debockle cost me over 10 grand.

    dont trust even your closest friends. stay correct to yourself. FUCK EVERYONE.

    i didnt think this shit was such a big deal til i was arrested. the judge was telling me some shit like he could put me in prison for like 11 years for this shit. fuck that yo, take no chances.
     
  18. Hobbes

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    Fucking Amen. I'm so bitter towards people I'm not even going to tell other writers that I write when I start again. I don't care if cope2 comes up to me and says he saw me throw up an ill handstyle, I'll tell him "I didn't fucking do that!"

    But hey, I did hear one thing I was curious about, "Hearsay cannot get you convicted" except for the fact there's a bunch of 'exceptions' to the rule. Anyone know more about this?

    Whats a good way to avoid meeting other writers? I don't want to run into anyone when I'm out bombing, to tell the truth.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearsay_in_United_States_law

    I think usually the hearsay has to accompany other evidence, so always keep your shit straight. When I got popped they were so fucking excited about certain shit "Oh great, we got paint ooh and a glove!"

    I want to get a small sack, like those things crown royal bottles come in, and stuff shit in that, then keep that by my nutsack, like markers, caps, etc. and cans will stay in my belt buckle, especially when carrying a bag so they'd be more wanting to search my bag than me.

    What kind of trouble do you get in for lying though, and what instances? I know lying it court is a felony, but cops do that shit all the time and lie in general all the time. As long as they can't prove it, your straight, but thats still a big risk to get caught in a lie because then your word won't have any credit and you can't defend yourself without them thinking your a total liar.


    But hey, stay up kid. Learn how to rack real shit and pay all the fees with that. Not worth breaking your back for all that shit. If you can, you might wanna try 'n appeal that shit if you can find some loopholes, if that statement wasn't made in court...I see a lot of flaws, was he even under oath?
     
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  19. hammer_time

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    no dude, anything you say after arrest is considered a statement to the police, hence the miranda warning....
    anything you say to a police officer after you've been arrested IS a binding statement that can be used against yourself, or if you choose to implicate someone else, that person too.
     
  20. Hobbes

    Hobbes Senior Member

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    You know they hardly bother with that miranda shit anymore...

    Read the link I posted, it says something about people being in elevated stress levels.

    I know that when I was arrested they didn't read my my miranda properly and didn't do it until after I mentioned that I was just 'trying to be a good citizen and make sure they didn't violate any of my rights' because hey, thats what I was taught in school.

    But sometimes you can get hearsay thrown out, its worth a try. If some punk did that to me I would do whatever it took to discredit them. Hell, I'd take evidence into court that I fabricated and say "Here is proof that this person is a proven liar and that statement holds no weight because 1 2 and 3" then present them with some sort of evidence.

    But like I said, hearsay is usually only good when it is accompanied by other things. So if you get busted with say tips, and someone says "I saw him do this" then you should try to discredit that person, and legitimize your reason for carrying tips.

    "I'm an art student and a fellow student gave them to me so I could experiment with them since I'm doing a mural for my aunt at her house, that person could have not seen me because I was across the street using a bathroom in the gas station, their statement is biased because they are the direct victim effected and seek only restitution, not true justice."

    you see where I'm going with this...