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Discussion in 'Old battles' started by Msfyt, Mar 14, 2007.

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best of the best?

  1. Mesn

    25.0%
  2. Save

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Albert

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Oaklander

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. spark

    25.0%
  6. bigel

    50.0%
  1. Caikerrr one niinee..

    Caikerrr one niinee.. Senior Member

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    mysft your right to a point. yes biting can be useful when you first start out. to HELP and get INSPIRATION.
    posting practically someone elses exact letters then tryin to win a battle with them. is jus a fuckin silly thing to do. you take shapes, bits, bars etc. then apply them to progressing your own style. newbies taking exact letters doesnt help anyone. at all. because they still dont learn how the letter works. they learn people think that particular writers letters are 'dope'. bite. and end up not properly progressin. because they start to rely on others letters. like learning handstands against a wall. after a while, you end up relyin on the wall. and jus hurt yourself when you take the wall away.
    basically. writers work for years to get a style, then some random newbie comes along thinks its 'dope' then gets props for doin a google image search and copyin out some letters is jus fucked up.
    bitings wrong. inspect and apply.
    fuckit im witterin... :rolleyes:
     
  2. Msfyt

    Msfyt Elite Member

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    sketching is never wrong
    battling is never wrong

    most "newbies" here couldnt even win a battle even if they do bite the whole piece
    so no i disagree still
    but yes i do hear what your saying, its isnt exactly the best way to win
     
  3. Caikerrr one niinee..

    Caikerrr one niinee.. Senior Member

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    sketching and battling are good things to do. definitely agree with that.
    how else could you progress without it? not sketching and just plain painting is a stupid plan. stok's proved that.
    but i mean if they did bite the entire piece, then it defeats the point of battling. because your no longer pushing yourself and your not seeing how 'your' shit weighs up against other etc. your showing how well you can copy. and he cant argue and say he was using it to learn. look at that hideous A, he obviously hasnt learned anything from biting Geser's letters. otherwise his A and N would be of a higher standard. and show some form of improvement... if y'getme?
     
  4. ChRoMa 11820

    ChRoMa 11820 Senior Member

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  5. NICCSACC

    NICCSACC Banned

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    all recycled styles or whatever you wanna call it.
     
  6. Lester Berns

    Lester Berns Senior Member

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    I am not posting this with an intent to belittle or ridicule, but to simply open
    some of your eyes to something a lot of you just dont seem to understand...
    I have no problem with the fact that This kid used my style exactly, its just sad
    that it doesnt bother him...
    There is a major difference between influence and biting...

    Taking influence: Using an overall feeling, look, or flow, and using it merely as
    a starting point for developing your own style as you move in your own direction.

    Biting: Relying solely and entirely on someone elses style, and putting in little
    or no effort to ever break away and stand on your own...

    I completely DISAGREE with Mysfyt on the previous page... I think individual style is extremely important... Did I bite when I started? sure... but I used it as a starting point and worked my ass off
    to create a style that reflected my personality... thats what a lot of you dont understand... your
    style is YOU... something you developed over years of hard work. Mysfyt, if you are ok with
    simply copying a different writer everyday and never putting any of your own creativity into your work, so be it... but thats the attitude that will prevent you from ever contributing anything
    original or even worth remembering. Its like dressing like a skater one day, a prep on another day, and a gothic idiot on another... might be fun, but who the hell are you?
    I encourage spark to take a look at others work, and then look away and put some of
    himself into it... You'll only be truly satisfied when you know YOU created a new style, even
    if its based on influence from another... then maybe someday a kid will copy your work...
    Thats my opinion, for what its worth.
     
  7. Lester Berns

    Lester Berns Senior Member

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    caik one nine makes some good points... there is hope...
     
  8. Sumoe

    Sumoe Elite Member

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    wow I didn't know he bit that bad, I thought he just bit some of the "G", kinda sad actually.
     
  9. SQUAD77

    SQUAD77 Senior Member

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    hmm...very wise ges very wise..
     
  10. an*tic_s

    an*tic_s Senior Member

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    im seeing kinda what ciak is saying.... basically instead of puting himslef in the battle he is put geser in that battle.
    is makes sense
     
  11. Nesty

    Nesty Senior Member

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    i voted for bigel but i thought alberts style was ill too
     
  12. Msfyt

    Msfyt Elite Member

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    I am not posting this with an intent to belittle or ridicule, but to simply open
    some of your eyes to something a lot of you just dont seem to understand...
    I have no problem with the fact that This kid used my style exactly, its just sad
    that it doesnt bother him...
    There is a major difference between influence and biting...

    Taking influence: Using an overall feeling, look, or flow, and using it merely as
    a starting point for developing your own style as you move in your own direction.

    Biting: Relying solely and entirely on someone elses style, and putting in little
    or no effort to ever break away and stand on your own...

    I completely DISAGREE with Mysfyt on the previous page... I think individual style is extremely important... Did I bite when I started? sure... but I used it as a starting point and worked my ass off
    to create a style that reflected my personality... thats what a lot of you dont understand... your
    style is YOU... something you developed over years of hard work. Mysfyt, if you are ok with
    simply copying a different writer everyday and never putting any of your own creativity into your work, so be it... but thats the attitude that will prevent you from ever contributing anything
    original or even worth remembering. Its like dressing like a skater one day, a prep on another day, and a gothic idiot on another... might be fun, but who the hell are you?
    I encourage spark to take a look at others work, and then look away and put some of
    himself into it... You'll only be truly satisfied when you know YOU created a new style, even
    if its based on influence from another... then maybe someday a kid will copy your work...
    Thats my opinion, for what its worth. [/b][/quote]
    ohh i fully agree
    i know hes cheating himself of true style advancement
    but at the same time i know must kids on here dont even have the balls to paint let alone bite someone
    its a hard call for me, i dont think biting is really wrong nor right (on paper)

    but most of all i think the only person that should be "upset" about all this is you
    the rest should really just mind their own business
    people develope different ways
    and not all ways are the best ways
    but hes putting in more effort than most people

    and i dont argue that it wasnt bitten, it was definatly a bite
    my opinion is more about how biting isnt always bad (on paper)
    now if he was painting your stuff id have a different opinion

    and your opinion is worth the most on here, it is your work hes biting
     
  13. neza

    neza Senior Member

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    ^ koper posted this ^ dont think its his though

    food for thought huh?

    personaly the motivations of biting are more important that the bite or who was bit if your biting because you wanna progress more for ya

    if your biting coz your crap and lazy and cant be bothered to develop in your own time you have the wrong end of the stick IMO

    but im just a toy so what do i know

    -nez
     
  14. Spark89

    Spark89 Senior Member

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    I never asked to be in the advanced polls.
    I was just placed in it.
    And to be honest, if I had a nice style like Geser and someone bite off of me, I would be flattered.
    Why?
    Your style is obviously admired to the point where they stole it or used it.
    And at the beginning, I said that I bite and it wasn't my original stuff.
    So basically, all these pages that are continuing to go on, is crying over split milk.
    What has been done has been done.
    That's why I don't care, simple because I admit to bitting before anyone started to bitch.
     
  15. Msfyt

    Msfyt Elite Member

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    actually you didnt
    because although i find nothing wronng with you biting
    i wouldnt have entered you in the battle had i known from the begining
    biting for pratice is up to you
    using someone elses style to win a battle, isnt fair
     
  16. GeSuS_KRiST

    GeSuS_KRiST Moderator

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    but homie its not flattering when you work for years and years and year, and his case propbably as long as u been alive man to take whats he worked so hard to build and craft and then you take it copy it and call it your own.....

    Its more of a respect thing in my eyes, personally i think biting is degrating, yeah we've all done it but like the man himself said u have to take that and then move it into another direction

    but like u said its crying over spilt milk
     
  17. Kayone707

    Kayone707 Moderator

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    pick up the soap so i can give the brown eye a poke...
    you think your hot, when infact geser's the dope.

    my cd comes out next month. holla back woot woot
    [Broken External Image]:http://blogs.sohh.com/videos/b-rad-grillin.jpg
     
  18. RealNiggasDoRealThings

    RealNiggasDoRealThings Senior Member

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    When you get to a point as Spark obviously already reached where it doesnt affect you, that you cant come up with your own work and are fine with winning battles on someones sweat, is just plain fucking degretating.

    You, Spark, obiviously don't understand. You bite Ges and Asesr. Yet, you don't understand what you done is completely wrong. To enter a battle and win because of someone else is ridiculous. Then you have a one on one battle and mostly likely bite Asesr and then to think as yourself superior to that writer, whom is exactly doing some thing on there own is fucking idiotic.

    Take a look at yourself and get your shit together.