in before the "if my art doesn't look like yours anymore that's how I know" comments lol. I've seen some good artists on the toys thread like VigoStar whose art doesn't look anything like a toy's. or are some of you more advanced and here to help toys and answer questions? Can you show examples of toy VS somewhat advanced but not a toy either in blackbook?
In my opinion you're not a toy when you no longer need constructive criticism with your pieces and the old heads on these forums say you're not a toy, like people just comment how dope your work is. In my opinion Im still a toy (intermediate) even if I've been doing graff for 10 plus years. Im just not good enough yet I still cant do a decent handstyle to save my life and im stilll pretty average at throwies too but I can do a piece no problem too. Yet I can't use a spraycan for shit. I think i'll never surpass intermediate stage if I don't first get a grip on my handstyle. Vigo in my opinion is still a toy but definitely on the right track and yea his characters and artwork are top notch but I think his letters still need work. So in terms of letters he'd be considered a toy in my opinion but in terms of his art hes far from toy status. You pretty much should be well versed in most but not all aspects of the foundations of graffiti to be no longer considered a toy, those being handstyle, throwies and blockletters. Colour schemes and characters are like extra, which sets u a bit further ahead from others. You for example (from what I've seen) have great colours schemes and decent character styles but your letters are what needs work. Also there is a few people that love to give advice but are just not as active as they once were, me being one of them. heres some pictures of my progress over the years. First 4 are from like 2013 I think, the 3 after that would be from like 2015 I think, the 3 after that would be around 2017-2018, and the last ones from the past few years. It does take alot of time unless you're really putting in the work. my progress could have been achieved in like 2 to 3 years had I put more time into it.